@Beate : They don't deserve that you take them so seriously (In a way, they succeed when it annoys you so much). I had dozens of these pure hate votes. You know your own value (and i think we are here often telling you how much you're important here), that's the only important thing.
I, myself, stopped caring accepted the low ratings as standard operating procedure. But time and again, the ratings have caused more anguish to the creators than be a real guide of the fontstruction's relative appeal.
This negative aspect is probably the chief reason there is no 'dislike' option on facebook. In a perfect world this would not happen. I hear astrophysicists are finding new planets almost on a daily basis these days. Maybe one of those is perfect. Earth and its people are not. If there is a chance to be negative, someone definitely takes it. And as it so happens, quite often.
Please allow me to request a permanent removal of the rating system. 'My Fav' count or Download count could be used to indicate an alternate rating system.
Or better yet: no rating system whatsoever. Every fs that's Top Picked is as deserving of limelight as any. I say make the TP page a random list of 10 of those TP. Anyone who wants to see some other TP can just reload the page. Fresh every time.
If nothing else, an option for the creator to disable ratings for any fs. No 10s and no 1s. ∞ forever.
Good, creative, inventive work should always be rewarded and recognised. I think the TP should 100% stay, as should the voting system.
Everyone gets 'voted down' at some point (especially when it gets TP'd) so it all balances out in the end.
However a fairer system would be a 'like' button, then the number of 'likes' gets added up. The more likes the higher the placing. No negativity can intervene. This will stop the 'voting down'.
@Cablecomputer. A 'Like' button is not the same as 'My Fav'. My Fav is a much stronger phrase, and it puts the font in your 'My Favs' folder.
It is a lot easier to 'Like' something, then to say it's 'My Fav', so more people would vote. I don't want "My Fav' font folder being clogged up with fonts I only 'Like'.
As for the rating system, I just don't care anymore. I rarely even look at my own ratings. For other people's fonts, I do give many ratings, but I've gone to a system where I either give a 10 or I don't rate it all.
I guess I have efffectively implemented my own 'Like'. Additionally, if I 'Like' it, my 10 will help negate some idiot's 1.
i got downrated as well and made a sample because of this but personally i think you can't take this things to seriously.
truth14ful made a good point. maybe they really can't stand the type… you can't expect everybody to value or even recognize the impartial qualities of well made fonts. after all the solution for me is always the same: …who cares.
Thanks all for your comments. I did not expect such an extended discussion. I think this is a good thing. It seems I am not the only one who cares about this phenomenon. Of course it is out of question that everybody has the right to vote according to his impression. And I don´t want to miss this. In principle I think that the voting system is ok - as well as the TP.
It is the great thing about such a forum that everybody who is investing time and effort here also can get recognition as well as constructive and critical comments about his font-structions. This is the basis of fontstruct. Therefore it would be sad to loose the voting system.
But the reason behind my last comment has been that I was angry about the anonymous "1", which almost always appears as soon a new fontstruct has been created. It is this "1" of an anonymous user (or probably better silent user) who does not have the balls to stand to his opinion and to express his opinion in concrete terms.
I have no problem with an expressed criticism - someone who says I don`t like this fontstruct for this or that reason. I don´t understand this behaviour. I think fair voting does not start with a click on a number - it starts with a statement and be it a single word or sentence. No?
I think it is not necessary to enforce this through the voting system. It is a question of communication culture to explain both positive and negative aspects without being forced by a system.
I just observe all who reacted on the TP subject are almost automatically top picked at each of their move because what they do is exactly on the target of Meek's taste. I know it's not politically correct to say that but i think "Top Pick" is a bit pompous name for what is actually the favourites list of Meek made public. I love what Meek created with this marvellous site but i persist saying the Top Pick system is an error and can create frustration to people who work hard to create innovative quality works ignored by this system just because Meek is not receptive to or doesn't understand them (I'm not only talking only of myself, it took time but i had 9 top picks finally), even more when absolutely not creative works, bad replicas of existing fonts are TP rewarded because Meek is fond of these approximative reproductions.
Oh, I nearly missed this beauty. What font have you used as template, if any? Fantastic work. 10/10
@beate: I understand your frustration. You've created something really nice, and someone gives it the lowest rating. I think, this behavior rates the person itself. On the other hand, almost all good fonts have been down-voted. Welcome to the club. I have a history of fighting this troll activity. Some of my works sustained as many as nine troll votes. So don't despair. Think about those members, us, who appreciate your work. You're doing a fantastic job.
@AFT: This is essentially a conversation about trolling and its effect on Ratings.
Why, oh why do you always have to turn it towards your obsession with Top Picks (and make yet another of your attacks on the character of Rob Meek ... for that is what it amounts to!)
Over the years Top Picks have been chosen by various people - gferreira (Gustavo) and afrojet, as well as by Rob. Are you saying that everyone is in some form of alliance? That way lies conspiracy theory and paranoia.
Why not just accept the fact that this is a font construction site (the clue is in the title)- not an art gallery. Therefore, most people will focus their main attention on the qualities that make a design work as a font.
You choose to use this tool for your own purposes ... don't keep whinging on about 'how unfair' things are just because not everyone recognises and applauds your work. Just get on with enjoying the creative process.
p2pnut said exactly what I was thinking regarding Abneurone Fluid Types continual complaining about TPs.
If you are only here to get TPs, then you need to figure out what kinds of fonts get TPs.
If you are here because you love to create things, then create things and quit worrying about TPs.
Regarding Meek's Top Picks, I haven't verified this, but I really don't think he gave himself any of his Top Picks. They were all chosen by Stewf, Gustavo or Afrojet.
Sorry to all,particularly Beate, i thought i had finished with this obsession. I guess the lack of recognition by my father when i was a brillant schoolboy has let scars really hard to close. What hurts me goes far beyond the TP problem. Aphoria's right, i really enjoy creating and sharing here, even if there are few who understand my approach.
An improvement you could make to this already glorious fontstruction is adding alternate glyphs in the lowercase with unique bubble patterns. These would allow non-repeating glyphs in layouts, but also would be a step toward creating lively motion typography (though I would guess three frames is the minimum for a convincing effect). Maybe for the pro version?
This is undoubtedly an admirable feat of FS engineering with a fine result. Might I suggest re-visiting the A, V, and the leg/tail of R? …they are noticeably heavier in weight. H feels a bit narrow as well. Just suggestions… feel free to ignore!
The creator of this font using the "All Rights Reserved" license that means NO FREE download...
Or, this font is still Work In Progress (WIP), no download until this font is finished / updated.
However, beate enabled free download in the past :/
About the voting system and against its abuse (downvoting via a simple '1', a recurrent question in the early 2010s maybe), we know a solution taken on the most serious/technical fora nowadays: the members must obtain the right to vote. Personally, I never rate, for I think it would be impolite and inaccurate (because we'd need objective and skilled judges in the same style of fontstruction, which is almost unfeasible on a trivial site with varied volunteers, I assume).
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I love your "db Soda" (light or not). Merry Xmax etc. too!
@Floppy T, I only quote: “Please respect their decision and desist from requesting license changes in the comments.”
Provided you credit Beate for non-commercial use, I think, you may want to 1. take the glyphs as screenshots (maximum size in the previewer), 2. vectorize your lossless bitmap images (the freeware Inkscape does the trick). But again, always in compliance with the current license (i.e. it might fit e.g. a fair use, although I'd contact the rightsholder for more info if I were in your situation, since Beate is still active -and kind- on this place/showcase).
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Wow - merci !
Cool font with even cooler samples!
This is absolutely wimpy !
I, myself, stopped caring accepted the low ratings as standard operating procedure. But time and again, the ratings have caused more anguish to the creators than be a real guide of the fontstruction's relative appeal.
This negative aspect is probably the chief reason there is no 'dislike' option on facebook. In a perfect world this would not happen. I hear astrophysicists are finding new planets almost on a daily basis these days. Maybe one of those is perfect. Earth and its people are not. If there is a chance to be negative, someone definitely takes it. And as it so happens, quite often.
Please allow me to request a permanent removal of the rating system. 'My Fav' count or Download count could be used to indicate an alternate rating system.
Or better yet: no rating system whatsoever. Every fs that's Top Picked is as deserving of limelight as any. I say make the TP page a random list of 10 of those TP. Anyone who wants to see some other TP can just reload the page. Fresh every time.
If nothing else, an option for the creator to disable ratings for any fs. No 10s and no 1s. ∞ forever.
Everyone gets 'voted down' at some point (especially when it gets TP'd) so it all balances out in the end.
However a fairer system would be a 'like' button, then the number of 'likes' gets added up. The more likes the higher the placing. No negativity can intervene. This will stop the 'voting down'.
It is a lot easier to 'Like' something, then to say it's 'My Fav', so more people would vote. I don't want "My Fav' font folder being clogged up with fonts I only 'Like'.
As for the rating system, I just don't care anymore. I rarely even look at my own ratings. For other people's fonts, I do give many ratings, but I've gone to a system where I either give a 10 or I don't rate it all.
I guess I have efffectively implemented my own 'Like'. Additionally, if I 'Like' it, my 10 will help negate some idiot's 1.
truth14ful made a good point. maybe they really can't stand the type… you can't expect everybody to value or even recognize the impartial qualities of well made fonts. after all the solution for me is always the same: …who cares.
Thanks all for your comments. I did not expect such an extended discussion. I think this is a good thing. It seems I am not the only one who cares about this phenomenon. Of course it is out of question that everybody has the right to vote according to his impression. And I don´t want to miss this. In principle I think that the voting system is ok - as well as the TP.
It is the great thing about such a forum that everybody who is investing time and effort here also can get recognition as well as constructive and critical comments about his font-structions. This is the basis of fontstruct. Therefore it would be sad to loose the voting system.
But the reason behind my last comment has been that I was angry about the anonymous "1", which almost always appears as soon a new fontstruct has been created. It is this "1" of an anonymous user (or probably better silent user) who does not have the balls to stand to his opinion and to express his opinion in concrete terms.
I have no problem with an expressed criticism - someone who says I don`t like this fontstruct for this or that reason. I don´t understand this behaviour. I think fair voting does not start with a click on a number - it starts with a statement and be it a single word or sentence. No?
@beate: I understand your frustration. You've created something really nice, and someone gives it the lowest rating. I think, this behavior rates the person itself. On the other hand, almost all good fonts have been down-voted. Welcome to the club. I have a history of fighting this troll activity. Some of my works sustained as many as nine troll votes. So don't despair. Think about those members, us, who appreciate your work. You're doing a fantastic job.
10 ;)
Why, oh why do you always have to turn it towards your obsession with Top Picks (and make yet another of your attacks on the character of Rob Meek ... for that is what it amounts to!)
Over the years Top Picks have been chosen by various people - gferreira (Gustavo) and afrojet, as well as by Rob. Are you saying that everyone is in some form of alliance? That way lies conspiracy theory and paranoia.
Why not just accept the fact that this is a font construction site (the clue is in the title)- not an art gallery. Therefore, most people will focus their main attention on the qualities that make a design work as a font.
You choose to use this tool for your own purposes ... don't keep whinging on about 'how unfair' things are just because not everyone recognises and applauds your work. Just get on with enjoying the creative process.
If you are only here to get TPs, then you need to figure out what kinds of fonts get TPs.
If you are here because you love to create things, then create things and quit worrying about TPs.
Regarding Meek's Top Picks, I haven't verified this, but I really don't think he gave himself any of his Top Picks. They were all chosen by Stewf, Gustavo or Afrojet.
Thanks for your comment. No, I had no template for it.
@aphoria, p2pnut, djnippa and …
You are absolutely right. TPs should definitely stay - and I think, Rob and his colleagues do a great job.
as always btw
-Mairi
Is it 100% sure that when I download this, it is free from virus?
Sure, it's free from virus. How you arrive at this?
Or, this font is still Work In Progress (WIP), no download until this font is finished / updated.
However, beate enabled free download in the past :/
This is really charming
And it makes me very happy - vraiment
kinkle
woooowww!
It uses some weird bricks, still, nice font and maybe some alternatives; same shape, different arrangement of bubbles.
Accents on ä and å are wrong and how many unique bricks in font
@beate
Thanks!
The accents on lowercase ä and å are wrong
I now.
Sorry : know
Ca you please change them...
é, W^, and w^ too. Can you please fix... before other people notice mistakes and goes insane telling you to change it.
Please allow Dowloads
About the voting system and against its abuse (downvoting via a simple '1', a recurrent question in the early 2010s maybe), we know a solution taken on the most serious/technical fora nowadays: the members must obtain the right to vote. Personally, I never rate, for I think it would be impolite and inaccurate (because we'd need objective and skilled judges in the same style of fontstruction, which is almost unfeasible on a trivial site with varied volunteers, I assume).
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I love your "db Soda" (light or not). Merry Xmax etc. too!
@Floppy T, I only quote: “Please respect their decision and desist from requesting license changes in the comments.”
Provided you credit Beate for non-commercial use, I think, you may want to 1. take the glyphs as screenshots (maximum size in the previewer), 2. vectorize your lossless bitmap images (the freeware Inkscape does the trick). But again, always in compliance with the current license (i.e. it might fit e.g. a fair use, although I'd contact the rightsholder for more info if I were in your situation, since Beate is still active -and kind- on this place/showcase).
no download :(
nice piece of art you have there.
santa
yassin
HERE IN HEAVEN
Accent on "é" is also wrong. It's showing up as "è"
why is in all rights reserved?
this looks like one of those colorblind tests lol
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