IT IS I: THE MYSTERIOUS HACKER WHO ONCE BROKE THE SITE BY REDIRECTING EVERY USER TO THE RICKROLL VIDEO ON YOUTUBE, BACK AGAIN WITH ANOTHER FONT!
THIS TIME, IT’S A COMPRESSED FONT WHERE NOTHING GOES BELOW THE BASELINE. (THE BASELINE IS THE WORLD’S MOST PROFOUND AND INEXPLICABLE BARRIER WHICH MAY NEVER BE CROSSED.)
FEATURES
• KERNING!
• A QUESTION MARK WITH SCOLIOSIS!
• A Q THAT SNEEZED SO HARD THAT ITS TAIL FELL OFF!
• NOTCHES CUT OUT OF E, F, J, T, AND Ƃ TO FIT NICELY WITH V, W, AND Y!
• INK TRAPS TO COMPENSATE FOR THE THICKNESS OF THE STROKES!
• ALL NUMERALS IN THE NUMBERBET ARE MONOSPACED, SO THEY CAN BE USED IN A DYNAMIC INTERFACE WITHOUT JUMPING AROUND!
39 Comments
This is my 3rd attempt at a compressed font. Hopefully it’s progressing in the right direction!
Does anyone know why random kerns aren’t retained in the downloaded font? I’ve had this problem in my other fontstructions too.
Another problem that I’ve been having with Fontstruct is that there’s no way to fully remove a character once you’ve placed a block on it. For instance, I originally made a “Њ” for IITO, which I removed, but it still tries to render it even though there’s nothing there. It would be better if it didn’t contain that codepoint at all so that it could fall back to another font for that character.
Could it be that kerning is not turned on by default in LibreOffice Writer? Just a guess.
The font is impressive, especially because it seems you did it in just a few days. Your sample of your three compressed fonts definitely shows progress in typeface design. Any real reason why descenders are avoided here? The ink traps in this font adds more nuanced value to the letters than it would seem possible.
1) Mixed script kerning does not work very well in most programs: Љ is part of the Cyrillic script and ʷ is part of the Latin script.
2) Empty glyphs stay if you saved the font with bricks in a codepoint then remove them later. There is a command to remove empty glyphs from the font's data by going to Advanced > Commands > Remove empty glyphs.
3) What about letters with two diacritics above, or letters with diacritics below?
@thalamic
Thanks. The only descender would have been in Q, and none of the rounded characters were going under the baseline anyway, so I thought I’d make it a rule. The only other character it really affected was the comma though. It has a slight benefit when using the font in graphic design software, because it makes it easier to snap to the real baseline. If I use it in an interface, I also don’t need to account for overhang, so there’s less to worry about.
Kerning is turned on in LibreOffice Writer. It’s only some combinations that don’t kern properly. And I don’t think it has anything to do with LibreOffice Writer specifically, because I tested it in a webpage and it’s rendering in the same way there too. Possibly the problem lies in a shared text rendering dependency in my operating system, but I doubt it. I remember the problem occurring when I was on MacOS as well. So I’m pretty confident the problem is in the conversion from Fontstruct’s internal data format to ttf and otf (both have the problem).
@Bryndan W. Meyerholt (BWM)
Good to see you again
1: That’s weird, because punctuation kerns just fine with Cyrillic even though it’s in the Basic Latin block.
2: Thanks. That’s a big help!
3: I don’t plan on adding any other letters with diacritics.
I think that maight be because of the punctuation being in the Common script.
"maight" -> "might" (It's late outside and I didn't notice it until after I clicked submit)
Congrats on the TP!
@TH3_C0N-MAN - Welcome back, and congratulations on the Top Pick. The design and colors of the sample pics remind me of the condensed LCARS displays from ST:TNG (and beyond). ;^)
Cool font.
@Rob Meek (meek)
Thankyou for bestowing unto me this unexpected honour!
@Goatmeal
I knew you’d get the reference!
@TH3_C0N-MAN - ;^D
@hakaqvi_272j
I don’t understand.
@TH3_C0N_MAN: @hakaqvi_272j said: Hi! Thank you for uploading this video! Meek has compiled a list of the top 3 for you, starting with the top 3 most popular.
@Forty-One
That much I could get from Google Translate. But I still don’t understand.
Nice work. Congratulations to the Top Pick. I have a few points to consider. 1) The E and F appear to be a little too large. The 2019 version was better. The M and N, likewise, especially when compared to the W. 2) Number 1 has a large serif in a sans serif font. 3) Your version of the letter Q reads as O or zero with an underline. The 2017 version was good enough.
@Frodo7
Thanks
1: E and F may seem too big, but they actually have the same proportions as they do in other typefaces such as Helvetica Ultra Compressed, Swiss 911 Ultra Compressed, and Antonio. I reduced their width by an 8th of a block for you, but that’s as much as I can do before they start looking absurdly thin when used in actual words.
M and N were purposefully wider than usual because I wanted their outermost strokes to be the same width as the vertical strokes of every other letter. That way, it’s nicer to use in graphic design if I want to align those strokes with those of other letters. But now I see that people like you are just going to complain about it, so I changed them to be what you’d expect.
2: I have no idea what your point is supposed to be.
3: It completely depends on the context. This is not a decorative font. In the contexts I intended this font for, nobody would be expecting O to be stylised at all in the first place, so they wouldn’t even think to interpret it as such. The Q in IITO isn’t even much different from the Q in PT Sans which really is an O with an underline, and that isn’t a problem. Even in the most exaggerated scenario: if Q was exactly the same as O, if you saw it in a non decorative context, it would still easily be interpreted as Q. Examine: “THE OUEEN LIVES IN BUCKINGHAM PALACE”.
As stated in the description, it was a rule for this font to have nothing below the baseline, so obviously I can’t accept your suggestion that the Q in KNIGHT would be good enough in this font.
I liked the font 10/10 as it was. The horizontal stroke on Q is shorter and closer than I would consider for O or zero with underline, so there was no confusion for me. I am just hobbyist and dont know if there are any rules, it just feels more like a little step outside box. Maybe a tiny connection would solve potential doubts, but such may drag it back to "ordinary".
@Peter (Petruuccio)
Those designs look really nice. I’m tempted.
will you finish cyrìllic
@elliqvl
No, but you can create a full Cyrillic version if you want to!
@TH3_C0N-MAN i lost the ability to clone on both of my accounts, meek has already been informed
I am glad you like them, but as you mentioned PTsans, maybe simple slightly sloped bar would work good too
I would definitely do that if I intended the font to be more playful. If that was the case, I’d have more diagonal cuts on other letters too. Maybe an idea for a future clone
how u make it not pixely
@alfieisanidiot
You can clone it to your account and check for yourself. I activate Expert Mode, which enables the option to make Composite blocks. I use them to get the exact diagonal slopes I need that don’t align to the grid. I also open the Filters dialogue box from the menu, and set both block dimensions to 2, so blocks occupy a 2 by 2 grid space. That means you can make a 4 by 4 circle composed of the 4 rounded corner blocks.
The curves are the bottleneck in Fonstruct, because if you want a circle larger than 4 by 4, you have to make it out of diagonal segments like a decagon, and it doesn’t look as good as the proper curved blocks.
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Nice ! Now, I wonder if there's gonna be lowercase someday?
@LorDuFonts
No, I detest lowercase letters. I wish they didn’t exist.
“He momotuhi kōpeke kāore he mea kei raro i te paepito. (Ko te paepito te tauārai tino hōhonu o te ao, tē taea te whakamārama, tē āheia hoki te whakawhiti.) Tīkina ake te kōnae ināianei!”
@TH3_C0N-MAN, @LorDuFonts, @elliqvl, @Sychoff and @meek (CREATOR OF FONTSTRUCT)
@TH3_C0N-MAN: Didn't has lowercase you detest; Create extinct languages and looks good.
@LorDuFonts: Lowercase can be added about cloning.
@elliqvl: In forms, You my friend, Lost the ability to clone in your both accounts.
@Sychoff: Thanks for completing the cyrillic of this font and adding lowercase.
@meek: Thanks to be on Staff Picks, and should be Top Pick a day about.
Wait, the notches cut off from the letters you mentioned look like my plus and minus sign.
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