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ETHproductions
ETHproductions Wed, 20th February, 2013

(continuing from previous page)
@will.i.ૐ: No, the bricks in the first post are meant to be like that at a 1x1 filter setting. I wanted to create larger "perfect" circles than are possible right now, and make new bricks from composites. And yes, that more complex filter setting would be cool...

If the large circle bricks are not a good idea, then I would really like these bricks (plus the round corner bricks):

(continuing from <a href="http://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/642789">previous page</a>)
<br/>@will.i.ૐ: No, the bricks in the first post are meant to be like that at a 1x1 filter setting. I wanted to create larger "perfect" circles than are possible right now, and make new bricks from composites. And yes, that more complex filter setting would be cool...
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<br/>If the large circle bricks are not a good idea, then I would really like these bricks (plus the round corner bricks):

winty5
winty5 Wed, 20th February, 2013

Suggestion: What about negative filters? That would be fun to fool around with!


winty5
winty5 Wed, 20th February, 2013

Like -2x2 and stuff :)


opipik
opipik Wed, 20th February, 2013

Avatars


will.i.ૐ
will.i.ૐ Wed, 20th February, 2013

Programmable advanced filters: What if we could apply transformations to the grid instead of to the bricks themselves? Obvious applications like shearing (rendering italics) could give way to more adventurous mathematical transformations. Sine wave transformations? Mapping to hexagonal or triangular grids. Polar coordinate systems? Dang, I gotta go back and take some more linear algebra classes! ;)


will.i.ૐ
will.i.ૐ Wed, 20th February, 2013

The Stream – banner design in FontStruct? I think so!


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Thu, 21st February, 2013

@winty5 But wouldn't negative filters mean the bricks are invisible? ;P


will.i.ૐ
will.i.ૐ Thu, 21st February, 2013

@Umbreon126: Negative filters (-2 x -2, for instance) would simply flip each (2 x 2) brick horizontally and vertically around its point of origin on the brick’s lower left corner. So with 2 x 2, you currently must select a brick by clicking within the lower left grid space (out of the four grid spaces occupied by each brick). With -2 x -2, you would click on this same grid space, which would be one grid space above and one grid space to the right of where the brick appears in the matrix.

Alternately, -2 x -2 would simply rotate each 2 x 2 brick 180° and make them even harder to select! :)


winty5
winty5 Thu, 21st February, 2013

Woooaah, too much maaaaath...

Although triangular and hex grids would be really cool. Wahat about Select Grid Shape option? And generating faux bolds and faux obliques would be interesting to play with.

By the way, nice avatars opipik!


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Thu, 21st February, 2013

@will.i.aum Oh, right. xP


Goatmeal
Goatmeal Mon, 4th March, 2013

If this is a duplicate from someone else's suggestion, my apologies.

Though we have a brick replace option (by dragging the new brick from "All Bricks" onto the unwanted brick in "My Bricks"), it would be nice to have an option to delete a brick-type from "My Bricks" and from all the current glyphs.

One use for such an option would be for making an outline font from a pixel font. Say I have a pixel font that uses the square brick. By using a full-circle brick, I can trace outlines around each glyph. Unfortunately, I then have to erase ALL square bricks from each and every glyph. Lastly, I replace the full-circle brick with the square brick.

By having a "delete brick" option (meaning removing it from "My Bricks" and sending it back to "All Bricks"), all square bricks would be removed from the font set immediately.

How would it work? One way could be:

1A. Since you can't (currently) drag an eraser on the "My Bricks" menu, you could use a double-click on the (un-)desired brick in the "My Bricks" menu. That would bring-up the option of deleting the brick:

"Would you like to delete this brick-type from your current FontStruction?" (OK / Cancel)

If OK, a second screen would pop-up to ensure that it's not been agreed to accidentally:

"WARNING! This process cannot be undone. Are you certain you want to delete this brick-type from your current FontStruction?" (Delete / Cancel)

Alternately...

1B. Have a Blank brick or Erase brick - maybe a Square with an X in it, possibly red in color? (I think something like this has been mentioned before.) Simply drag the Erase Brick on the desired brick in "My Bricks" menu.

This would bring up the two "Are you sure? / Are you REALLY sure?" options mentioned in 1A.

2. If there is only one brick present in the "My Brick" menu, it would not be possible to delete that one last brick. Otherwise, it would be just resetting the entire FontStruction to its initial blank state.

Thank you for listening.


Isaiah Garcia
Isaiah Garcia Sun, 10th March, 2013

I have a drag 'n drop idea. It's a small box called "Divider". You drop a regular block into one of the yellow squares, then it divides into four blocks. Of course, it's just a small idea.
Concept art:

~PS: Original blocks at top are shaded yellow~

I have a drag 'n drop idea. It's a small box called "Divider". You drop a regular block into one of the yellow squares, then it divides into four blocks. Of course, it's just a small idea.
<br/>Concept art:
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<br/>~PS: Original blocks at top are shaded yellow~

Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Fri, 15th March, 2013

Funny glitch, here: Grid is off, and I see a grid with wonky lines. (the brick to the right is 1x1)

Funny glitch, here: Grid is off, and I see a grid with wonky lines. (the brick to the right is 1x1)

Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Fri, 15th March, 2013

Heh, I cut the "brick to the right" off the image ^^;
I guess I'll just say this is 1x1 filter, and see the 1/4 quarter brick on the upper left corner (not a composite)?


Aeolien
Aeolien Fri, 15th March, 2013

Would it be possible to have the commands "copy to extended Latin A" and "copy to extended Latin B" added? I use "copy to basic Latin" to have letters for the most common European alphabets but find the manual copy to the other Latin sets too timeconsuming. Hence I very rarely add "extended Latin A" and never up to now the "Latin B". As Stephen pointed out in his post on complete fonts it would be useful for other languages using Latin letters. I would make those letters more often if a command for the "A" and "B" Latin made it easier ...


Yautja
Yautja Mon, 25th March, 2013

There seems to be a bug when deleting fonts, they are still counted on your profile and tag pages, resulting in empty pages and incorrect numbers of fonts.


pebbletech
pebbletech Mon, 15th April, 2013

I have six, semi-related suggestions, some of which have been suggested in slightly different forms...

1. Select all bricks of Type-A in selection/character/set/font. Example usage: Select all full-size circle bricks, for subsequent edits.

2. Replace all bricks of Type-A in selection/character/set/font with bricks of Type-B. Example usage: Change a LED-style font made from circular bricks to square bricks, or change a font that uses diagonal corner bricks to rounded corner bricks.

3. Invert bricks in current selection across same selection-co-ordinates in selection/set/font. That is, swap bricks of type-A to type-B, and those of type-B to type-A. Example usage: Switch blank bricks to solid bricks, and solid bricks to blank bricks, so that you create the solid-outline of a font.

4. Invert the fill of a brick. Example usage: Convert a brick having a black 5-point-star with white surrounds, to a white 5-point-star with black surrounds.

5. The "Make Composite" command should work on larger selections. For example, I'd like a brick with a 3x3 or 4x4 grid of circles or squares (useful for LED-type fonts). I can make a composite brick with a 2x2 grid of circles or squares, but that's the current limit.

6. Brick submissions/sharing. It would be great if we could upload bricks in EPS/SVG, and/or save composite brick designs, to tagged, private or public brick-collections on fontstruct.


Yautja
Yautja Mon, 15th April, 2013

@pebbletech: You can do 2 by dragging a brick on top of another in "My bricks". And 4x4 circle is possible with increased filter size (press F and drag the sliders to 2).

#6 is a great idea.


pebbletech
pebbletech Mon, 15th April, 2013

@Yautja: Thanks, I didn't know I could do 2 by dragging a brick over another in My Bricks, but I can't find a way to replace all bricks of Type-A with an empty brick, or put another way, to delete/erase all bricks of Type-A.

As for 4x4 circle, I'm not sure if I've misunderstood your advice, or if you've misunderstood my requirement. I'd like bricks that are 3/4 circles across, and 3/4 circles down, all within one brick. Is this possible, and if so, which filters do I adjust?


Yautja
Yautja Mon, 15th April, 2013

Ah, right, I don't think that's possible.


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Sun, 28th April, 2013

It would appear that even though you delete a font, FontStruct keeps the tags and thinks it's still there or something. Example:
1) I make a font with tags Private, Latin, Cyrillic
2) I make 10 more with the same tags
3) I delete them
4) Under ((View All | Tags:)) on my page, I click on Private
5) FontStruct will say ((You have 10 FontStructions tagged “Private”. View all FontStructions tagged “Private”))
6) However, I see nothing.
(An outstanding example that's happening to me for real: "You have 40 FontStructions." "You have 44 FontStructions tagged “Private”.")


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Sun, 28th April, 2013

...And 39 fonts in total. Makes sense.

...And 39 fonts in total. Makes sense.

Yautja
Yautja Tue, 30th April, 2013

If possible, it would be nice if you could make accented characters so that you only make the accents, and they would be automatically assigned to letters in the correct place.


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Tue, 30th April, 2013

I expect it would be somewhat complicated, with FS guessing the spacing between the diacritic and letter, especially for larger grid fonts, though... Still an awesome idea though :)


winty5
winty5 Sun, 5th May, 2013

There's a bug with the favorites, they gradually get deleted over time. If you look through my favorites page and go to the end, you will just see many blank pages, and over the days, your number of favorites goes down gradually.


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Sun, 5th May, 2013

It would appear that my votes keep going away, eventually; for example I could've sworn I gave a 10 to opipik's tacticalreminds, beate's SIL, and a lot of will.i.aum's fonts, but I recently found that it seems I never scored them. (So I gave them a 10 again, and I'm absolutely certain I gave SIL a 10, no doubt)


winty5
winty5 Sun, 5th May, 2013

@umbreon: I have the same issue.


Yautja
Yautja Mon, 27th May, 2013

I wish we'd have these kind of fin bricks...

I wish we'd have these kind of fin bricks...

winty5
winty5 Mon, 27th May, 2013

I second Yautja!!!


will.i.ૐ
will.i.ૐ Mon, 27th May, 2013

No doubt, Yautja’s onto something. Refer also to, ETHproductions’ first post on this page. He suggested a group of bricks useful in making just these slim fins (and others) via compositing. There is an expanded class of fins and propellers that I hope get added to the fontstructor eventually. I’ll try to get around to uploading some demo images later.


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Mon, 27th May, 2013

Oh! i was just thinking of those a few days ago! didnt feel like saying anythiing though :p


minidonut
minidonut Fri, 31st May, 2013

What if we could change the leading in a font? That would come in handy for negative fonts or grid-fonts.

PS: If you don't know what leading is, it's the white space between two lines (it's something like 2 pixels in FS)


Yautja
Yautja Fri, 31st May, 2013

@minidonut: You can try adjusting the vertical line "|". From what I've noticed, that character seems to affect the line height. (Sometimes if it's too short, other characters get cut off)


minidonut
minidonut Sat, 1st June, 2013

Really? :o


minidonut
minidonut Sat, 1st June, 2013

Er.. didn't work.


minidonut
minidonut Sat, 1st June, 2013

1B. Have a Blank brick or Erase brick - maybe a Square with an X in it, possibly red in color? (I think something like this has been mentioned before.) Simply drag the Erase Brick on the desired brick in "My Bricks" menu.


This could be handy for negative fonts, like when you have a combining character, like ^. You create the ^ in X-bricks, which means the shape gets removed from the character. Example: NEGATIVE a + Combining ^ in x-bricks = NEGATIVE a with removed ^-shape


minidonut
minidonut Sat, 1st June, 2013


ETHproductions
ETHproductions Thu, 13th June, 2013

I think I found a glitch--it registered my vote of 10, but still says zero votes...

I think I found a glitch--it registered my vote of 10, but still says zero votes...

Isaiah Garcia
Isaiah Garcia Thu, 13th June, 2013

Does anyone know if this is a glitch?
I'm in the gallery adding fonts to my favorites or voting fonts, then when I go to the page of the author of the font, my rating(s) and/or favorite(s)don't appear for their fonts I rated and/or favorited.


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Thu, 13th June, 2013

@minidonut I don't think that would be possible, and that that is a limitation of the nature of font formats being typically for (overlaying) black on white fonts...


Goatmeal
Goatmeal Fri, 14th June, 2013

OK, how about this: an Invert Tool (or Normal Highlight, then Shortcut Key = Q). Use the Invert Tool to exchange complementary brick shapes.

The only thing is to be useful for outline fonts, your highlight would have to grab "empty" bricks to fill them in.

Maybe highlight with a special "grid-grabbing tool" (results in Red, grabs maximum grid corners), then pressing "Q" to exchange?...


Goatmeal
Goatmeal Fri, 14th June, 2013


Goatmeal
Goatmeal Fri, 14th June, 2013


architaraz
architaraz Fri, 14th June, 2013

Another suggestion. FS already has stack option, I wonder if it's possible to add some intersection, subtraction options? It would really revolutionize fontstruct, and give us opportunities to create some new bricks:


architaraz
architaraz Fri, 14th June, 2013


winty5
winty5 Fri, 14th June, 2013

@architaraz: I would LOVE to have subtraction option.


thalamic
thalamic Fri, 14th June, 2013

No, not the Q, please. Q is perfect as the selection shortcut.


Isaiah Garcia
Isaiah Garcia Fri, 14th June, 2013

@Architaraz: Your subtraction idea is great.


Goatmeal
Goatmeal Fri, 14th June, 2013

@thalamic - Oops! I thought "Q" was free as a shortcut key - it's not listed on the Help-Keyboard Shortcuts page.

I originally had it as "I" for invert, but saw that it was used for "Expert Info" when I consulted the Shortcut page.

Doesn't matter what key is used; just a suggestion that may or may not be useful. :^)


will.i.ૐ
will.i.ૐ Fri, 14th June, 2013

Interestingly, fontstructors have requested a brick subtraction feature since practically the beginning – even before the brickstacking glitch was isolated and unofficially shared by me. Rob, we still really want a built-in “pathfinder” palette to enhance our brick alchemy! :)


cablecomputer
cablecomputer Sat, 15th June, 2013

I wonder if all GREAT IDEAS here are accepted by meek, there's a chance for meek to make two types of account: PRO with full great features inside and REGULAR only consists features that we've used now :P


winty5
winty5 Sat, 15th June, 2013

NOOOO I DONT WANNA PAY FOR FS!!!!!!!!


cablecomputer
cablecomputer Sat, 15th June, 2013

Haha, me too :P
Actually it's worth for someone whose a professional typographer, designer, etc. As it's says PRO means professional.
But I think the chance for it to happen is very little.
So don't worry! :)


minidonut
minidonut Mon, 1st July, 2013

I really want to make OpenType fonts.
L-apostrophe has L-caron as an alternate, L-comma has L-cedilla... etc etc etc.


ETHproductions
ETHproductions Fri, 19th July, 2013

I second Goatmeal's and architaraz's brilliant suggestions. Also, I have some of my own requests.

1) Someone had suggested a folder system for storing your fonts. I think that is a great idea, I definitely would use it a lot.

2) Along with that idea, the ability to create font families, and to be able to make different versions (bold, italic, bold italic) that actually download as Bold or Italic instead of Regular. That would allow users to click the Bold button in a word processor and have the bold version in place of the regular.

3) Also, the ability to clone fonts (or parts of fonts) into other fonts. One use of this would be to have two parts of the same font, saved as separate fonts--one with, say, Basic Latin and More Latin complete, and one with Extended Latin A--combined into one.

4) And finally, the option to save a font as a Fontstruct file, with an extension such as .fs1. You could then have the option on the 'Create a New Fontstruction' page to upload it. Or, if there is ever a standalone version of FS, you could upload fonts from Fontstruct to the standalone with the .fs1 file.

Speaking of which, a standalone version of Fontstruct would be fun... :-)


winty5
winty5 Fri, 19th July, 2013

@ETH: Your suggestions are BRILLIANT!

And I think I suggested the folder system.


Here's some more of my suggestions, if anyone is interested.

1. I think we need to be able to draw with the eraser tool as we draw with the pencil tool. That would be VERY useful in negative fonts.

2.The ability to composite stacks. This could be very useful in creating very intricate large-scale fonts.

3.The ability to composite composites and stacked composites. I'm sure almost all of us of FS would find this very useful.

4.Make FS open source to allow people to make modifications to the original code (to allow us to create new features in FS ourselves, if we have any coding experience.)

5. If it is your first time on FS, upon opening the fontstructor for the first time, you could be presented with a video guide to all the ins and outs of FS. This would be a huge help for beginners and would help the community make better, more high-quality fonts.

6. You should be able to design your own bricks, using a specially made Brick Editor . This would be a good alternative to compositing and would allow much more creativity.

7. An official FS forum. The unofficial ones were a HUGE success, which is why i'm suggesting this now.

8. Being able to subscribe and unsubscribe to users. If you are subscribed to a user, you get updates on new fonts they make, and users can send out email updates to their subscribers manually. This would help the FS community.

9. On every user's profile page, you should be able to see the user's Balanced Rating for all of their fonts, and also their number of subscribers.

All of these suggestions are not necessary, but I think they would be a great help for FS's growing community.


winty5
winty5 Fri, 19th July, 2013

Oh and one more:

10. Being able to have multi-user accounts. This would be very useful for collaborations.


ETHproductions
ETHproductions Fri, 19th July, 2013

Great suggestions, winty! I think p2pnut suggested the folder system way back in 2009, but you brought it back to everyone's attention.

1. I think this is a great idea.

2. This is already possible; you simply have to make composites and then stack them. (See the picture for an example.)

3. I'm not sure that's a good idea; it would open up infinite possibilities, but would make creativity no longer necessary. Maybe being able to make slightly bigger composites would work better?

7. YES!!

8. That would be awesome. Allow me to make my own suggestion: favoriting fontstructors. I'm not 100% sure it's a good idea, just a thought.

9. That would be cool, along with a total of their favorites.

10. Oh, yeah!

Great suggestions, winty! I think p2pnut suggested the folder system way back in 2009, but you brought it back to everyone's attention.
<br/>
<br/><b>1.</b> I think this is a great idea.
<br/>
<br/><b>2.</b> This is already possible; you simply have to make composites and then stack them. (See the picture for an example.)
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<br/><b>3.</b> I'm not sure that's a good idea; it would open up infinite possibilities, but would make creativity no longer necessary. Maybe being able to make slightly bigger composites would work better?
<br/>
<br/><b>7.</b> YES!!
<br/>
<br/><b>8.</b> That would be awesome. Allow me to make my own suggestion: favoriting fontstructors. I'm not 100% sure it's a good idea, just a thought.
<br/>
<br/><b>9.</b> That would be cool, along with a total of their favorites.
<br/>
<br/><b>10.</b> Oh, yeah!

ETHproductions
ETHproductions Fri, 19th July, 2013

The image didn't turn out like I expected...

The image didn't turn out like I expected...

winty5
winty5 Fri, 19th July, 2013

@ETH: Yeahhh, slighty bigger composites I think might be a better idea.


winty5
winty5 Fri, 19th July, 2013

Oh and favoriting fontstructors, great idea!

On the profile page would it show the fontstructor's total favorites on his fonts, or on the fontstructor? (or both?)


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Sat, 20th July, 2013

FS is in Flash, is there even source code???


winty5
winty5 Sat, 20th July, 2013

Oh. Sorry, i'm dumb XD


sarreyn
sarreyn Sun, 21st July, 2013

I completely agree with Isaiah's idea of the drag and drop system (1 block split into four). This would allow me to do most of my designs on a small scale, as opposed to the quite large scale I use now; granted, none of my larger fonts are viewable as they are for my personal projects, but they average about 100 blocks tall.


sarreyn
sarreyn Sun, 21st July, 2013

I also rather like the idea of composite block stacking. :) However, all the suggestions are great.


will.i.ૐ
will.i.ૐ Sat, 27th July, 2013

I’ve been mulling over a few new expert feature suggestion:

1) A row/column select tool.
2) A hotkey + arrow key function for shifting selected bricks one grid-space in a given direction.
3) A hotkey + arrow key function for brick-cycling selected bricks (non-trivial alternative to global brick substitution).
4) Quater-round bricks – of the same size and orientations as the extra-corner bricks.

The first three suggestions would be extremely useful for speeding up many iterative or macro-like brick manipulations (e.g. grid doubling). While the fourth suggestion is not entirely new, the extra-corner logic is a potential improvement.

Thanks in advance for considering them! :)


winty5
winty5 Sat, 27th July, 2013

@will.i.om:

1) That would be pretty useful.
2) YES!
3) That would be useful maybe for you, not for me.
4) Hmm...That would be nice. I always like it when we get new bricks :)


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Sat, 27th July, 2013

We might not even need new bricks if brick inverting and cutting/subtraction/whatever is implemented, although I get the feeling it's harder to implement than it looks...

Also, we need a better way to look inside composite bricks (you know, in the palette with the shift button), currently the parts just overlap in weird ways...


winty5
winty5 Sat, 27th July, 2013

I agree with umbreon.


will.i.ૐ
will.i.ૐ Sat, 27th July, 2013

@Umbreon126: The best way I have found to dissect a stacked composite:

1) shift+click to invoke the palette
2) hover over the topmost brick which may be obscuring bricks below it
3) the cursor becomes the eraser tool; click once to erase the topmost brick
4a) press ‘z’ to invoke undo, which restores the deleted brick
4b) the restored component reappears only in instances contained within the canvas; notice how the floating composite palette remains unchanged by the undo operation
5) rinse and repeat: click to erase a brick to reveal what is underneath; press z to reverse the erasure while delving into the underlying layers of the composite.

Really step 5) says it all, but I wanted be thorough because will.i.ૐ.


will.i.ૐ
will.i.ૐ Sat, 27th July, 2013

Oh, right. IMPORTANT OBVIOUS FOOTNOTE: make sure the cursor doesn’t leave the composite palette or it will disappear and you will have to begin again from the topmost layer.


geneus1
geneus1 Sat, 27th July, 2013

I didn't even know this existed. So sad. Anyway, great ideas listed here and the previous page. Now I know where those new bricks came from.

Existing suggestions I'd also like to see: Folders, subtractive bricks (I believe William was the first to suggest brick subtraction and other binary operations), Kerning of course.

Advanced suggestions:
1. Hiding Glyphs. Option to hide specific glyphs from publication. I usually have multiple versions of glyphs, some of which are failed attempts. It would be helpful to be able to turn off selected glyphs so they aren't made public. This would save space so an entire backup fontstruction doesn't have to be created.

2. Faster Fonstruction Navigation. A faster way to scroll through pages of fontstructions. It takes an extremely long time to get to page 114 going five pages at a time. I could just type in a page number at the URL but another option would be good.

3. Circle/Oval Drawing Tool. Draws regular oval shapes as a default, draws perfect circles when constrained with shift key.

3. Spacing Controls for All Drawing Tools. In order to efficiently draw in within the 2x2 filter space, the line drawing tool would need to draw a brick on every other grid space. Spacing controls would also enable a line or a circle to be drawn with only a specific number of bricks.

4. New Editing Shortcuts. Ctrl-Up or -Down to switch between Basic Latin to More Latin or other language systems.

5. A direct link to this page should be placed in the Support page.


p2pnut
p2pnut Sat, 27th July, 2013

Some great ideas pouring forth.

I fully support Gene's proposal for a link in the Support tab.


winty5
winty5 Sat, 27th July, 2013

@Geneus1: Here's what I think of your Geneus ideas:

1. Yes, great idea! That would be good when you are working on one glyph and don't want people to see your glyph-in-progress.

2. Yes, definitely.

3. WE NEED THIS!!!

4. I don't really think this would be really useful.

5. Yes! In fact, this forum is where I pretty much learned the ropes of FS when I first came here.


j4s13
j4s13 Sat, 27th July, 2013

I would like font families. The inktraps vary and 1 would help for small, then medium, then large.
Small: Medium: Large:

I would like font families. The inktraps vary and 1 would help for small, then medium, then large.
<br/>Small:                Medium:                 Large:

j4s13
j4s13 Sat, 27th July, 2013

Opposite, sorry.


Aeolien
Aeolien Fri, 16th August, 2013

I would like the possibility to remove erroneous images so that I can show 'correct' font samples, please ...


Icelar
Icelar Fri, 16th August, 2013

Amen to that. =)


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Fri, 16th August, 2013

You can replace images by editing your comment and choosing a new file to upload.


Aeolien
Aeolien Sat, 17th August, 2013

@ Umbreon: I must have got it wrong... went to 'edit' my sample in the font comments, clicked on 'delete' which it did. Hence my surprise to find the image still available in the live feed. Should I have left it standing and add the new sample, would that have removed the previous version?
Seeing the sample is no longer in the font comments, how do I remove it from the live feed?


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Sun, 18th August, 2013

I don't think there is a way of hiding a comment from the Live Feed besides becoming a FS staff member.


Aeolien
Aeolien Sun, 18th August, 2013

Aaah ok. Thanks, Umbreon :)


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Wed, 21st August, 2013

There's something wrong with The Wall, it looks like it can only handle basic shapes:

(the first one is laynecom's Baby Elephant, I think it said)

There's something wrong with The Wall, it looks like it can only handle basic shapes:
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<br/>(the first one is laynecom's Baby Elephant, I think it said)

Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Wed, 21st August, 2013

(and it seems to be recycling the same small set of fonts over and over again, I saw will.i.aum's More Trajedy three times or something, along with other fonts...)


ETHproductions
ETHproductions Thu, 22nd August, 2013

@Umbreon: I've noticed The Wall only uses Top Picks with 1x1 filters, which severely limits the possibilities...


winty5
winty5 Thu, 22nd August, 2013

Yes! What's wrong with 2x2 anyway?

If you look at it for a while, it gets kind of boring. I think it would be much more exciting if you included somthing so that it picks a random Top Pick every time it generates a new font.


Aeolien
Aeolien Thu, 29th August, 2013

I would like to see the eraser option "single, rectangle, line'. When we draw we have that option ...


ETHproductions
ETHproductions Thu, 26th September, 2013

Here are a few more suggestions.

1) A Fontstruct Collaboration license, where the creator can let others directly edit the font. If they only want certain people to edit it, they can specify a password, then privately give it to them. The server should keep every saved version, just in case someone changes something that shouldn't be changed. This can be a different approach to collabs with multiple people on one account.

1a) A place on every fontstructors' profile page that says how many collabs they have participated in, and how many of them have been top picked.

2) A set of 'white' bricks, maybe in another section of the bricks tab. These bricks, when overlapped onto another letter, will whiten that part of the letter. However, they can be stacked with other bricks within the same letter. See the last picture for an example. (The white bricks are gray)

3) A few more bricks:

Here are a few more suggestions.
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<br/>1) A Fontstruct Collaboration license, where the creator can let others directly edit the font. If they only want certain people to edit it, they can specify a password, then privately give it to them. The server should keep every saved version, just in case someone changes something that shouldn't be changed. This can be a different approach to collabs with multiple people on one account.
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<br/>1a) A place on every fontstructors' profile page that says how many collabs they have participated in, and how many of them have been top picked.
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<br/>2) A set of 'white' bricks, maybe in another section of the bricks tab. These bricks, when overlapped onto another letter, will whiten that part of the letter. However, they can be stacked with other bricks within the same letter. See the last picture for an example. (The white bricks are gray)
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<br/>3) A few more bricks:
<br/><img src="http://fontstruct.com/showings/show/8795?1380205159" width="380" height="354" />

Yautja
Yautja Tue, 8th October, 2013

Could be nice if your own downloads on your fonts didn't count. (I often have to download several times and feel like "cheating"...)

@ETH, great idea on the collab license.


Abneurone Fluid Types
Abneurone Fluid Types Tue, 8th October, 2013

@Yautja : Why not make your own downloads on a private clone ? I do this, and it permits to have always a security copy, what is vital for me who makes so many updates and transformation tryouts, not speaking of technical issues...


Yautja
Yautja Tue, 8th October, 2013

It could be an option, but I'd still have to make sure the downloaded file on the published font works.


j4s13
j4s13 Tue, 29th October, 2013

I tried saving my fonts, and they got destroyed by random bricks?


laynecom
laynecom Fri, 8th November, 2013

Ok, I hope I'm not suggestion something someone has done before, but this brick here is now officially on my wishlist...

Ok, I hope I'm not suggestion something someone has done before, but this brick here is now officially on my wishlist...

RussianGuy
RussianGuy Tue, 26th November, 2013

You can't even design a font for East and Southeast Asian languages because they discontinued support for them a long time ago, I believe. And I think Arabic and related languages aren't fully supported as you cannot type them correctly? Glitch maybe?

TL;DR:
Add support for more languages and fix the glitches in languages that already exist.


Umbreon126
Umbreon126 Wed, 27th November, 2013

That would be quite nice to add more languages but the question is, is it worth it? (or rather, will anyone bother with them besides us two)


RussianGuy
RussianGuy Wed, 27th November, 2013

Create a contest where you have to create the neatest font you can in as many languages as possible?


architaraz
architaraz Wed, 4th December, 2013

FS staff: We're still unable to download.


tsrhobbies
tsrhobbies Wed, 4th December, 2013

FS STAFF! I CAN NOT DOWNLOAD ANY OF MY FONTS,WHATS UP!!!!!!!!!!!


meek
meek Wed, 4th December, 2013

I'm looking into it.


macossin
macossin Wed, 4th December, 2013

Will someone tell me how to embed fonts?
I found in support an advice but it doesn't help.
Says:
Copy the text to your blog or website.


CMunk
CMunk Wed, 4th December, 2013

ETHproductions: your white bricks might be possible inside a letter, as a sort of "subtracting by stacking". But not between letters, as this is not how truetypefonts work (or indeed opentypefonts). It's like asking for a pochoir* with automatic colours.

*I use this word for "stencil" here to differenciate it from stencil typefaces.


architaraz
architaraz Fri, 6th December, 2013


architaraz
architaraz Fri, 6th December, 2013

WebFonter is awesome :)


four
four Sun, 22nd December, 2013

A suggestion to minimize troll voting. What seems to happen is that trolls lazily click themselves through a page of ten fonts, usually the first Gallery page of 'What's New' or 'Everyting', or 'Top Picks', giving each single font a rating of 1. How about removing the option to vote directly from the gallery pages, but leaving it on the individual font pages? It will probably decrease the total number of votes given, but it will also mean that those who do vote, will have looked at the font in more detail and made a more informed decision.


four
four Fri, 27th December, 2013

a brickwish

a brickwish

Goatmeal
Goatmeal Sat, 28th December, 2013

@Four - Is this Composite close enough?


Goatmeal
Goatmeal Sat, 28th December, 2013


four
four Sat, 28th December, 2013

Thanks Goatmeal, that is the exact shape. But what I was really looking for was a brick to be used in composites itself.


Goatmeal
Goatmeal Sun, 29th December, 2013

@Four - Yes, I see what you mean now. :^)


sarreyn
sarreyn Mon, 30th December, 2013

I would really like to be able to make composites from composites. :)


j4s13
j4s13 Mon, 30th December, 2013

ETHproductions said previously to winty5 about compositing composites (scroll up): I'm not sure that's a good idea; it would open up infinite possibilities, but would make creativity no longer necessary. Maybe being able to make slightly bigger composites would work better?
But I still think it would be good for faux-curves. Angles like 1:24 would be available or at maximum, 1:32 for compositing only twice. I might have obsessive-compulsive-composite syndrome if composite inception was implemented.


Aeolien
Aeolien Tue, 31st December, 2013

I agree, composites from composites would be very useful.
And an eraser that removes lines, rectangles and single bricks (like the drawing tools give single, line and rectangle)


Abneurone Fluid Types
Abneurone Fluid Types Tue, 31st December, 2013

I second Aolien, for low experts as us, because some high Fsers seem to be able to "erase" parts of composites and make much smaller composites than the regular 4 cases grids permit. I never understood how they did it. i just gratefully used these miniature bricks they left in various tools and clonable works...


j4s13
j4s13 Tue, 31st December, 2013

@Abneurone Shift click on the composite block and click on the unwanted brick(s).


Abneurone Fluid Types
Abneurone Fluid Types Tue, 31st December, 2013

@J4s13 : Thanks! one mystery solved, but some these composites i talked about are thinner or smaller than only 4case grid and erase method could permit, for example this one (the 3rd in my sample below) found on an Intaglio work and i overused since then. The first half circle is the initial Fs set half circle, the second is obtained with classic composite brick method, erasing the unwanted one, ok now... But for the third ?... it's still a mystery...

@J4s13 : Thanks! one mystery solved, but some these composites i talked about are thinner or smaller than only 4case grid and erase method could permit, for example this one (the 3rd in my sample below) found on an Intaglio work and i overused since then. The first half circle is the initial Fs set half circle, the second is obtained with classic composite brick method, erasing the unwanted one, ok now... But for the third ?... it's still a mystery...

j4s13
j4s13 Tue, 31st December, 2013

@Abneurone ...! A explanation appeared!

@Abneurone ...! A explanation appeared!

Abneurone Fluid Types
Abneurone Fluid Types Tue, 31st December, 2013

Am i insane, i tried and it works: i thought we could only make composites on a 4 cases square, but actually the 4 cases of the composites can also be placed on a single line!!! Wow! THANK YOU! THAT's a great lesson, thanks! even if it comes a bit after the battle, my typographic art series soon coming to its end, maybe for a future effort after resting at least some months from typography to develop my other artistic activities more or less in standby because of it...


Goatmeal
Goatmeal Tue, 31st December, 2013

@Abneurone - When making vertical (up/down) or horizontal (across) composites, you do not have to use all 4 bricks. You can make composites using only 2 or 3 bricks, too.


Abneurone Fluid Types
Abneurone Fluid Types Tue, 31st December, 2013

@Goatmeal: Thx for this last precision. Took me 3 years to know how the whole composite system works! Never too late, as they say. It could be precious when i prepare the final version of the typographic part of my BIG artbook project. Maybe i'll be able to refine some last details now that i have at last all keys in my hands...


sarreyn
sarreyn Wed, 1st January, 10:30 PM

@j4s13: Yeah, that would work—say, being able to create a composite from say … a 6x6 or 8x8 box.


sarreyn
sarreyn Wed, 1st January, 10:32 PM

@AFT: That's how I made the curves on Sunstone—1x4 composites. :)


j4s13
j4s13 Thu, 2nd January, 12:19 AM

@sarreyn A 4x4 box would be equivalent almost equivalent to compositing composites. A 8x8 box= such smooth such big so large


sarreyn
sarreyn Thu, 2nd January, 11:02 PM

@j4s13: True, a 4x4 box would work wonders. :)


aphoria
aphoria Fri, 3rd January, 1:58 PM

I know it's not quite as powerful as compositing composites, but you can stack composites.


sarreyn
sarreyn Fri, 3rd January, 3:32 PM

@aphoria: Indeed. I wouldn't have been able to do some of the curves or joins, i.e., on Malachite and Azurite, without being able to stack composites. We just cannot currently make certain 3-angled bricks, i.e., bricks created on a 1x3 grid. This is why a 3x3 and even a 4x4 box would fix that problem. Plus, that may open up the possibility of creating 2x3 or even 2x4 blocks?


j4s13
j4s13 Fri, 3rd January, 4:11 PM

1)I want a 3:4 composite however you can create it! (and also useful if fs Fermat is in the composite phase..)
2)Larger "real" curves! 1x1 is good, bur not good enough! We can probably not make a good font without faux-curves! Unless it's a angle-and-line font, NO CAN DO.
3"Pixel View". I can't stand going back and forth between the preview that HAS a pixel view. Can you make it available as a window on screen while you fontstruct?
4)What's with always having a name structure error? I always get it. HALP!


j4s13
j4s13 Fri, 3rd January, 4:13 PM

1)I want a 3:4 composite however you can create it! (and also useful if fs Fermat is in the composite phase..)
2)Larger "real" curves! 1x1 is good, bur not good enough! We can probably not make a good font without faux-curves! Unless it's a angle-and-line font, NO CAN DO.
3"Pixel View". I can't stand going back and forth between the preview that HAS a pixel view. Can you make it available as a window on screen while you fontstruct?
4)What's with always having a name structure error? I always get it. HALP!


Abneurone Fluid Types
Abneurone Fluid Types Fri, 3rd January, 9:49 PM

@j4s13 : you say "we can probably"not make a good font without faux-curves". For me it's the exact contrary. Faux-curves are last resort for works not adapted to the Fontstruct medium when we can make wonderful things with Fontstruct which would be difficult, if possible, with other softwares. Of course for those who think making a a good font is more or less copying Helvetica, surely Fontstruct isn't the best tool.


Abneurone Fluid Types
Abneurone Fluid Types Fri, 3rd January, 9:53 PM

But i absolutely second you to obtained even more varied and larger REAL curves, even if we already can make beautiful ones today


j4s13
j4s13 Fri, 3rd January, 10:31 PM

@AFT Unless it's a angle-and-line font, NO CAN DO (except some fonts). An almost-quote. And thanks for support (I'm a perfection) on the larger real curves.


p2pnut
p2pnut Sat, 4th January, 12:36 PM

Faux-curves are just another way of using FontStruct creatively.

Whatever size a curved brick is it will always limit the freedom to go beyond a simple quarter or half-round curve.

Faux-curves are used for a variety of fonts other than Helvetica copies ... as I think is demonstrated here

Let us explore all aspects of this wonderful software and allow everyone the freedom to use it in the way they desire. A narrow mind only allows for a narrow view.


Abneurone Fluid Types
Abneurone Fluid Types Sat, 4th January, 2:38 PM

PEACE ON FONTSTRUCT.
Though, if FS preview was more realistic, no more massacring detailed works and idealizing approximative ones...


j4s13
j4s13 Sat, 4th January, 2:43 PM

@AFT See below? Slightly larger than pixel view.

@AFT See below? Slightly larger than pixel view.

j4s13
j4s13 Sat, 1st February, 1:54 AM

Is it just me or is the saving server down? If it's everyone, I suggest meek helps us!


j4s13
j4s13 Sat, 1st February, 12:21 PM

Help!


reggie12
reggie12 Sat, 1st February, 12:24 PM

nevermind


Noronha
Noronha Wed, 2nd April, 2:20 PM

There would be an option that following letters stands backwards previous letters, and vice-versa : )


Cohnisgone
Cohnisgone Wed, 2nd April, 4:59 PM

I think that zooming out should go slightly further out. It would be no great sacrifice if zoom in didn't go as far in, because even if you are making a very small font, it is always clearly visible.

Also, I may be the only one with this problem, but I can't make composite bricks. The button for it is always grey.