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    Created on 18th December 2013. Last edited on 9th January 2014.
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I thought I had worked out the optimal relationships to get these curves looking good. Turns out... no! It's been a long time since I did anything on a huge scale and now I remember why -- what a pain. I probably could get smoother curves if I had the technical chops, but for better or worse I don't have a mathematical brain at all.
As for a believable upper case: as can be seen I'm in two minds regards diagonals in the lower case; this will be compounded in any upper case scheme.
Nevertheless I wanted to share this unfinishable thing because I still find the forms pleasing, unresolved though they may be.
Comment by intaglio 21st december 2013
I might finish+10/10+fav=Good work!
Comment by Evie Atarax (j4s13) 21st december 2013
Feel free! It would be interesting to see someone else's take on it.
Comment by intaglio 21st december 2013
A beautiful beginning - love that 'v'
Comment by p2pnut 22nd december 2013
Unfortunately I have a recurring illness that knocks me out once every month or so for a week. It's tedious, but I'm learning to cope with it. But all the time I've been quizzing myself how I'm going to believably extrapolate a Cap O from what I've already got. So I do intend to get back to it when I have the stamina for it.
I figure I'm going to have to take a screen capture of the lower case o and bring it into InDesign and blow it up, to make sure I get the right proportions.
I had misgivings about the v but seeing how you like it I'll keep it! The x is a problem, though, don't you think? I'm not sold on either options I've come up with.
Comment by intaglio 24th december 2013
I'm so sorry to hear about your illness - hope you manage to get through Christmas reasonably fit and happy.

Re the font: I quite like the original 'x' - the generous curves are in keeping with the other glyphs.
Comment by p2pnut 24th december 2013
This is doing my head in. How to go about increasing the radius/weight for the cap version. I've also noticed to my dismay I've made a mistake with the placement of some characters on the baseline. That'll serve me for idiotically using the "flip vertical" function without engaging the brain first.
Comment by intaglio 30th december 2013
It's a mug's game trying to do this sort of thing. You can only increase the radius of the upper case bowl by so much -- and it rather governs the width of certain letters. It might look regular but it's full of vagaries when you look up close. Oh well.
Comment by intaglio 7th january 2014
It's looking good - did you see my clone? http://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/clone_fs_ozone_2

I have only worked on the lower part of the C.

Comment by p2pnut 7th january 2014
Duh!! I'd forgotten to make the clone public! It's there now.
Comment by p2pnut 7th january 2014
@intaglio - Nice to see I'm not the only one who uses alternating 5-brick or 10-brick patterns as measuring standards (as in your Dec 30 picture post). :^)
Comment by Goatmeal 7th january 2014
I like where this is going. I was having a similar issue with Azurite—trying to create aesthetically pleasing characters with limited angles. That's the fun of it, though. :)
Comment by sarreyn 7th january 2014
@Goatmeal: Ha ha! We could do with Mr Meek giving us a few extra guides so we can easily keep track of things like cap height, l/c ascenders and descenders, x-height, bowl overshoots and the like. Preferably a different colour for each. (Now I'm being just silly.)
@sarreyn: ain't that the truth. After creating a roughly-spaced-out u/c O I spent a whole week trying to work up the courage to tackle the issue of increased radius. As you say, them limited angles. There are possibly more composite permutations than I've been able to discover; I've not been particularly methodical about investigating them. It's like searching for the lost chord: I still find myself trying to re-invent the wheel. "Ah, I know! If I combine those bricks into this composite... nah, you've already tried that, sunshine."
I'm reminded of the early days of imageset typesetting. Glyphs bigger than 72pt revealed the same, ropey combinations of angles to approximate curves. More sophisticated because mathematically derived and optimised, but the same process. Now I'm really showing my age.
Comment by intaglio 7th january 2014
You can add extra guide lines by hovering over the guide lines. On the left side a +/- box will show up so you can add or remove extra guides.
Comment by sarreyn 7th january 2014
It's easy to see I haven't been reading the updates! Thanks for the tip.
Comment by intaglio 8th january 2014
@intaglio - You have to be working in Expert Mode to get them; the ability to change their colors would be helpful in distinguishing one guide from another (cap- & x-heights, l/c ascenders/descenders, etc).

Extra Extra Guides
Comment by Goatmeal 8th january 2014

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