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Clone of lower case o.
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    Created on 8th October 2008. Last edited on 30th April 2009.
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This one is a clone of the same template I used for Shoptima. Now I'm paranoid that this is going to die on me too.
Is it possible the resolution is just too fine to get much past midway point before the file craps out?

What I might do is try and redraw this on a more economical scale. Trouble is, I'm going to run into trouble with my thick'n'thins.

Ah me, what to do?
Comment by intaglio 11th october 2008
According to my experience, unfortunately saving issues are not that rare. I tend to save quite often my work, and sometimes I quit after saving to check if the saving was successfull.

What bothers me most is that sometimes when you save the red asterisk on the right of the font name in the FontStructor (denoting the unsaved work) stays there after saving, and you are prompted to save when quitting even if you just saved your work.

As concerning resolution, it is sometimes responsible of the impossibility to download a font. More than the resolution it looks like the more bricks you use, the more download problem you have.

Sometimes just deleting some gliphs makes the set downloadable.

I hope this helps...

By the way, I like this template a lot!
Comment by Em42 11th october 2008
I have the font page open in one tab while I am editing the same in another (tab). I refresh the font page every so often to make sure the saves are registering.

Love the font.
Comment by thalamic 11th october 2008
So it's not just me. "I could have sworn I saved..." Ha ha.

@thalamic: what a good idea! I'm going to do this from now on! I can see that a save after every significant action and then a check in the other tab will save me a lot of heartache when Murphy really does strike. I get the "unsaved changes" dialog fairly frequently but this is the first time since "slabfest" that it has bitten me. Pretty good going, I suppose, given the amount of work I've been churning out.
Comment by intaglio 11th october 2008
This is looking nice, intaglio. Keep it up.
Comment by Stephen Coles (Stewf) 11th october 2008
Phew. Tense moment flipping the s for the z and then having saving issues. I kept saving repeatedly but still the red asterisk next to the filename. "Do you wish to save?" when I worked up the courage to close the file.

Shut your eyes and say a prayer. Y-Y-yes.

Phew! I can do without this excitement.
Comment by intaglio 11th october 2008
I'm dragging the chain with this one mostly because the lag is driving me up the wall. I don't know if it's because it's a big Fontstruction or because New Zealand has yet to join the 20th century let alone the 21st (Broadband -- hah!)or both.

I can only churn out a few glyphs before I have to go and make myself a nice calming cup of tea.
Comment by intaglio 19th october 2008
Are you from New Zealand...or was that a joke I failed to get?

The more bricks on a glyph, the laggier it gets. On those large fonts, a few is plenty to do at a time. In fact, maybe I'm getting settled-in or maybe it's my jittery, unsettled nature that I find myself working on no more than a few glyphs at a time anymore before I close the editor. I have so many unfinished fonts. I wish there was a way to share fonts with just a select few people.

BTW, how come there is so much extra space above the letters in the preview? Is there an errant brick way up there somewhere on some character that is not visible in the preview?

Looking at the letters, I think you nailed the 's' and the 'z'. 'h' seems a bit wide though, comparatively, i.e.
Comment by thalamic 19th october 2008
There are actually quite a few things wrong with it, but it's on such a humungous scale they aren't immediately noticeable. Another reason I'm dragging the chain. Instead of being disciplined and weeding out the inconsistencies early on I just stormed ahead.

No joke, I actually am from New Zealand. But I see that the laggy problem isn't just because our pipe has a dodgy prostate.

Yes, I also seem to have got over sitting in front of the monitor in a daze getting out an entire font in just a few sittings. And I thought Photoshop was bad.

I thought I was seizing up. Slowing down is all. Soon be time for the Fontstruct resthome. Where's my zimmer frame?
Comment by intaglio 20th october 2008
Interesting. (BTW, is there an Old Zealand?) I always thought you were from the north-west US. One part of me want to learn more about a certain few fontstructors here right now and another part likes the slow revealing that goes on naturally. This is what happens when you are middle-brained--there's never a right choice for me. :)
Comment by thalamic 20th october 2008
Old Zealand would be Holland, I guess. Neeuw Zeeland, I suppose, though I can't speak dutch. Abel Tasman "discovered" it, if you like. And then Captain James Cook sailed all round it, charting as he went. He really was a stunning cartographer. His map is pretty accurate. Georgian era, I believe, but I'm no historian.

Actually New Zealand (Aotearoa) was colonised by the Moriori and then the Maori sometime mid-middle ages. Intrepid and brave seafarers in (legend has it) two canoes, they ended up rather a long way from Hawai'i.

I'm from an English immigrant family who came to New Zealand in the early 'Sixties. So although I'm a "kiwi" -- as the rest of the world notes we call ourselves with amusement -- I have quite an English sensibility, too. (The kiwi as in the flightless indigenous bird, not the fruit...)

Interestingly New Zealand has its own high quality typographer in the form of one Kris Sowersby (I think that's his name!) designer of Feijoa (a distinctive polynesian fruit) and National, two excellent typefaces. He was also part of the team that worked on Spiekerman's Meta serif.

Us Kiwis have to brag about our own whenever possible, we're such an insignificant little semicolon at the bottom of the world, it makes us feel better.

As for the leading problem. It's a stray brick lurking somewhere north of the equator but do you think I can find the damn thing? The old eyes aren't what they were.
Comment by intaglio 20th october 2008
Semicolon...hahaha. Geography and type. Perfect.

The stray brick is on the lowercase f. Directly above. Way above. The lag and the scrolling up and down would drive me crazy. Such dedication! I would have given up a long time ago. I try not to design anything that doesn't fit on one zoomed-out, unscrolled screen.

BTW, even at such incredible resolution, you still used the half-width square brick. Color me impressed. Very impressed.
Comment by thalamic 20th october 2008
There's an inconsistency (which I'm not going to describe!) that bugs me about this font. Oh well I will then. Some of the downstrokes have a half-brick less in the width. I was going to homogenise it before proceeding, but... I didn't. Now I'm stuck with a whole lot of inconsistent glyphs but I can't face the bore of going back and finding them all.

I thoroughly agree with what you say about making a glyph that's bigger than the view pane. Very stupid. If you work in "full screen" mode you lose your keyboard shortcuts, of course.

But sometimes there's no avoiding huge fontstructions if you want subtle stresses. Oh well.
Comment by intaglio 27th october 2008

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