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NCD Octangle 20

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by djnippa


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Description:
An original font driven by a desire to have a modern text font.
This will be designed in five other weights.
Still Work In Progress.
Stats:
178 characters, 86 downloads
Created:
Fri, 26th June, 5:47 PM 2009
Last Edit:
Fri, 27th August, 1:09 AM 2010
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Discussion

djnippa
djnippa Sun, 28th June, 2009

A lot more fun.

A lot more fun.

djnippa
djnippa Sun, 28th June, 2009


djnippa
djnippa Sun, 28th June, 2009


djnippa
djnippa Sun, 28th June, 2009

As you can see, I'm still working on the Upper Case. All comments good or bad are appreciated.


intaglio
intaglio Mon, 29th June, 2009

This is extremely beautiful. Five (!5) five weights. What a trojan.


geneus1
geneus1 Mon, 29th June, 2009

Ha! Those quotes are genius. Nice legibility. The f seems to dissolve in the smaller size.


djnippa
djnippa Mon, 29th June, 2009

@ Intaglio
I know, slave to the struct! :-)
I've decided on 5 weights (it may stretch to 7), as I find that upon designing a font, the more weights, the more I use it. If I can't use it on a job, then what's the point?
I'm not into ornate, heavy detailed fonts. They're great for FS points, showing ones creative skills, but essentially if it limits its use to 1 or 2 jobs, it doesn't appeal to me.
Also I'm trying to sell all the fonts I design. I figure I would have more success if they were designed as a family in various weights.
For me usability and clarity are paramount.


djnippa
djnippa Mon, 29th June, 2009

@ Geneus, absolutely brilliant comment, and eye. I was thinking exactly the same. When I looked at it i "hummmmd". Although i originally thought it was because I used a pseudo bold in Photoshop. I've made the left bar slightly bigger.
Comments like that are always appreciated, respected, important and always taken on board. Many thanks.


jmarquez
jmarquez Mon, 29th June, 2009

really cool one you got here.


djnippa
djnippa Mon, 29th June, 2009

I've just finished the Upper Case, I think the W appears a little thin, so I'm still working on a final solution for that. I also will no doubt tweak bits of the other characters after a download, and full usage workout.

I've just finished the Upper Case, I think the W appears a little thin, so I'm still working on a final solution for that. I also will no doubt tweak bits of the other characters after a download, and full usage workout.

djnippa
djnippa Tue, 30th June, 2009

Added an old style 'g' and an alternative 4.
§ = g
± = 4

Added an old style 'g' and an alternative 4.
<br/>§ = g
<br/>± = 4

thalamic
thalamic Tue, 30th June, 2009

Nice. Elegant. *thumbs up*


aphoria
aphoria Tue, 30th June, 2009

I love the old-style g.

Great work.


djnippa
djnippa Tue, 30th June, 2009

Thanks guys. Unsure as to whether I make that the main g or not?

Also started the various weights last night. Very exited, with the results so far.


djnippa
djnippa Tue, 14th July, 2009

After extensive usage, I have slightly tweaked some of the serifs, and finalised the dreaded kerning. Anyone got any rules for kerning, I know every font is different, but I'm trying to get this side of things nailed.
I also added the "OE/oe" character - not sure which country this is for, but I see it a lot from others.

THIS IS NOW READY TO DOWNLOAD.


gferreira_admin
gferreira_admin Tue, 14th July, 2009

Congratulations! FontStruct Staff have deemed your FontStruction worthy of special mention. “NCD Octangle Ultra Light” is now a Top Pick.


gferreira_admin
gferreira_admin Tue, 14th July, 2009

Sorry for the delay in giving this one its deserved Top Pick. I look forward to see the other weights! :-)

Kerning really is design dependent, but lists of common problematic glyph combinations such as this one are often helpful as a start.

But FontStruct does not have support for kerning (yet). Are you using FontLab or any other additional tool?


thalamic
thalamic Tue, 14th July, 2009

Oh oh! It's that dreaded thalamic again. What does he have to say now?

Just this: Because the Top Picking was so long in the making, it is now the 17th font in the What's New listing, which is unfair to this fair FontStruction.

Remedy: Sort What's New in the order of receiving Top Pick status rather than first public sharing. Latest Top Pick to show up top on page 1 of What's New, receiving the full benefit of the status.

[Sorry, Rob. I keep adding new variables for you to track. *grin*]

PS: I apologize for my flat statements and confess of being completely illiterate in the art of diplomacy. In the words of one or the other of Savage Garden members, "Carry on, keep romancing. Carry on, carry on dancing." :)


djnippa
djnippa Tue, 14th July, 2009

Thanks for T.P. Gustavo, much appreciated. :-)

I'm onto my third weight at the mo, and it's looking like there will be 7-9 weights in total, and a stencil version!

Even though I think my kerning is good, I may pay a specialist to sort out a serif and sans on one of my Fontstructs then let everybody see it.

I bought Fontlab four months ago, but not had chance to really get to grips with it yet.


djnippa
djnippa Tue, 14th July, 2009

@Thalamic
That makes perfect sense, and is a really cool idea.


p2pnut
p2pnut Fri, 17th July, 2009

It certainly works as you intended - a modern text font. It's so clean and elegant.

178 character and heading towards 10 variations!! No one can accuse you of slacking ;)

On the subject of the 'g' ... I think the original 'g' fits with the overall look. If I may make a suggestion, would the 'g' match the 'p', 'q' and 'y' more if the descender of the 'g' was the same length as the others? (hope you don't mind a complete amateur butting in)


djnippa
djnippa Fri, 17th July, 2009

@p2pnut.
Thanks, and good suggestions.
I did try that initially but felt that the 'g' looked a little too like the 'q' so added a longer tail to match the 'f'. Although it balanced well, and looked more modern, I felt it may get lost if written at a smaller point size (see example).
The 'y' looked okay with a shorter tail but then looked odd against the 'g'. I even did one with a full tail, which looked good, but it didn't look distinctive enough.

Here's a sample from my Initial testing.

If you like I could add the alternatives for you to download.

@p2pnut.
<br/>Thanks, and good suggestions.
<br/>I did try that initially but felt that the 'g' looked a little too like the 'q' so added a longer tail to match the 'f'. Although it balanced well, and looked more modern, I felt it may get lost if written at a smaller point size (see example).
<br/>The 'y' looked okay with a shorter tail but then looked odd against the 'g'. I even did one with a full tail, which looked good, but it didn't look distinctive enough.
<br/>
<br/>Here's a sample from my Initial testing.
<br/>
<br/>If you like I could add the alternatives for you to download.  
<br/>

p2pnut
p2pnut Fri, 17th July, 2009

I see what you mean (from the bottom line of your sample). I can also see that you put a hell of a lot of thought (and skill) into the process.

It's quite instructive for me to be able to follow the thought processes of a pro., so thanks for your patience.

I suspect that you have more than enough on your plate, so don't worry about the alternatives ... it's fine as it is :)


djnippa
djnippa Sat, 18th July, 2009

Upon completing 4 other weights, it became apparent that the g & y needed a tweak. As the g was not working too well in the smaller sizes. The g looked even more like a q, and the y needed to balance with the g. So I've altered them both to a more conventional look. Fourth one down in the Typography quagmire jpeg. I've still kept the double story g as an alternative.

I have also tweaked the M & Q.

I'd like to be able to change the original jpegs I've posted, but it won't let me do it!


kix
kix Sun, 19th July, 2009

it's simple.
a glyph itself CAN be beautiful, but it's more fun to make it part of a beautiful "word", right?

:P


djnippa
djnippa Sun, 19th July, 2009

A lot more fun.

This font is NOW ready to download, after tweaking the spacing. Enjoy.