db Dorma

by beate

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Info: Created on Thu, 27th December . Last edited on Thu, 17th January.
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Hey beate, I don't wanna be rude, but this is far bellow your normal standards.. usually we see only top of the line fontstructions from you! ;)

Comment by Sed4tives Fri, 28th December

oh, really!?

Comment by beate Fri, 28th December

Yep, the idea is alright, but executed pretty rough so far imo, i think if the curves would've been smoother this could be a much more desirable font

Comment by Sed4tives Fri, 28th December

bottom right of the currency symbol has a replaced brick as well.

Comment by Sed4tives Fri, 28th December

Oh I forgot to mention that I really like your solution for the section sign. I tend to just use the lowercase s with very little tweaking, but in most cases this resulted in a rather poor looking glyph. I remain struggling with if every time.

Comment by Sed4tives Fri, 28th December

I wouldn't worry, it's beautiful and beziers are pretty much intentional. 

All we need to do is wait for Beate's samples ;)

Comment by architaraz Fri, 28th December

Thank you architaraz, but I can not download the font. 

Comment by beate Fri, 28th December

Interesting, so today's quest is to experimenting with rough curves? Or is it on progress? Can't wait for the sample to justify the means ;)

And, that's weird when you can't download your own font, never happened to me before.

Comment by cablecomputer Fri, 28th December

Same issue for me as well, unable to download my fonts

Comment by Sed4tives Fri, 28th December

Creating a sample for him...

Comment by Se7enty-Se7en Fri, 28th December


What is going on here? I do not like this way of communicating. The font "db Dorma" is just a bit angular! After all, my designs and ideas are not just for my own person, but above all for those who share my approach, rather than those who simply trace the ideas of other designers. The first one can be fun if idea and fontstruct work together.
If I wanted Bezier curves, then I could have done that too ...


Comment by beate Sat, 29th December

@ Se7enty-Se7en: how embarrassing is that?

Comment by beate Sat, 29th December

This also applies to Sed4tives if that is not the same ...

Comment by beate Sat, 29th December

Fake Creativity? Not with me.

Comment by beate Sat, 29th December

@beate Wouldn't an angular font usually have 45° turns?

I meant "Angular"...

Comment by Se7enty-Se7en Sat, 29th December

@Se7enty-Se7en - Limiting an "Angular" font to only 45° angles would truly be a disservice to the other 88 possible angles between 0° and 90° -- not to mention fractions/decimals of degrees!  ;^)

Comment by Goatmeal Sat, 29th December

@ beate:
I'm sorry for the confusion my comment created, but I think you completely misunderstood me.

To start, I wasn't trying to say anything bad about your font at all. I haven't even really wrote wether I did or didn't like it. What I just simply meant was that this particular design is a little rough in my opinion. (not angular/jagged-rough vs. bezier/curved-smooth, but more like a sketchy rough look).

Especially knowing how amazing the majority of your work usually is and the both clever as well as technical competence it often is showing.

Furthermore, I haven't said, meant to say anything, or have even doubted your creativity, since I simply know your fonts have got nothing short of this.

Nor have I said that this angular approach should've been a Bezier approach instead. Why would I tell someone 'what' or 'what not' to design and how to?! Besides pointing out a swapped brick in the Currency Symbol, I complimented your design approach for the Section Sign..

On top of that, I have a great deal of appreciation for your work.

So, I hope this clears thing up a little, As I was not looking to make trouble or to be unfriendly in any way.


Comment by Sed4tives Sat, 29th December

@beate:  FYI I love this font!!! :)

Comment by tip2tail Sat, 29th December

This may come as a surprise but I'm with Sed4tives on this one. I love his honesty. I can fully understand where he is coming from as he is, like me, a huge fan of Beate's work. Beate undoubtedly produces some of the most incredibly proficient and usable fonts ever created on Fontstruct, setting the bar to a very high level. So whenever a new one is released we all hope it's going to be another masterpiece. To be honest this font is a huge disappointment to me. It does look like a 'rough' sketch layout. I can only assume that it is exactly that, and that you will create a smoother version in an external application sometime. My least favourite characters are the V,W,X,Y,Z and their relationship, width, and comparison to each other. Particularly the X. Please don't take offense, we are all fans of your work, and love everything (almost) you do. :)

Comment by Audio Sat, 29th December

; = :

Comment by Se7enty-Se7en Sat, 29th December

It's different from her usual work, I wonder if it's a commission. The pronounced corners of db Dorma's 'straight built' octagon based character hint at refinement, flexibility and ability to expand/consider 'more', rather than the expected and so limiting 'sharp-straight' and predicatbly boring look it could have had without those juicy corners. It looks ideal for logos/titles that speak of construction, boxes, transport, science/maths, technology, craftsmanship and mental development. Apart from that I like the unadorned simplicity of the 'graphique' shapes which makes this so easy to read and would give 11/10 for its clarity and emotional appeal.

Comment by Aeolien Sat, 29th December

I think we end this discussion.
I have been here with Fontstruct for almost 10 years and can not remember such exchanges. My writings arise from the joy of designing and to use them, of course, when appropriate opportunity. It's not about delivering one "masterpiece" after another. I do not care about meeting a "level".

My aim is to implement my ideas with Fontstruct, to give them a shape. What fascinates me again and again are the incredible possibilities Fontstruct offers. This is the nice challenge for me, and if the result pleases others here…, of course, I'm also happy. If not, it does not mean "how embarrassing, I did not create a masterpiece" or "now I have disappointed the others". That's not the claim I have.

db Dorma should be simple and unobtrusive, but not monotone. With a few rough edges – so what!?. With small variations of uppercase and lowercase letters. Nevertheless, a harmonious typeface (for short texts) should be created in the end.

I would not have thought that these small corners and edges confuse the minds so much.
That db Dorma is below my "level", I have probably overlooked. I find that pretty irritating. I was not aware that the basic idea of ​​this forum is a competition for the new masterpiece. I thought it was fun to be creative.

Comment by beate Sat, 29th December

Thank you Aeolien.

Comment by beate Sat, 29th December

and you, tip2tail.

Comment by beate Sat, 29th December

I still found errors in this font: igrave, icircumflex, semicolon, yacute...

Comment by Se7enty-Se7en Sun, 30th December

Beate, these kinds of veiled slights and misaligned expactations are all too common for some of us. I'm as bewildered about the phenomenon as you are. Not only do I like this design a lot, I like how different it is from your others. 

Experimenting is fun, but dealing with the aesthetic "meta" of other users is not. Please don't allow it to affect you, lest you become disenchanted as I have.

Comment by zephram Sun, 30th December

@ Se7enty-Se7en 

I do not know if you already knew, but this font is not finished yet: Work in Progress! I mean, I've already noted that (see above).

Comment by beate Sun, 30th December

I'm afraid I've hurt someone's feelings :(

I try to always appreciate someone's works first, and so in this case. It's just sometimes when someone takes a different path than usual, people will be a little puzzled. It doesn't always mean that person did a bad thing after all.

People will react differently, in good or bad way. If mine is one of those that irritate you, I'm so sorry. I understand your point, thanks Beate for pointing those out :) Makes me rethink about what it means to being in a creative place, and how to deal with creators.

Comment by cablecomputer Sun, 30th December
Congratulations! FontStruct Staff have deemed your FontStruction worthy of special mention. “db Dorma” is now a Top Pick.
Comment by Rob Meek (meek) Sun, 30th December
Comment by beate Sun, 30th December

Rob, many thanks for the TP.

Comment by beate Sun, 30th December

I like the zoruses in the sample... How did you do them in a 3d space?

Comment by Se7enty-Se7en Mon, 31st December

is it just me or is there no ? character in the sample?

Comment by Se7enty-Se7en Mon, 31st December

I see db Dorma as an exercise in monolinear minimalism. Angular faceting of curved typographic elemets within a geometric sans serif type design yields interesting and beautiful results.

beate’s voice is present here. Her chosen geometry’s lively rhythm of proportions is unique (compare E, N, and V), and the playful monocase interprets the angular curves in a modular fashion (compare a and g to e and o).

How do these “faceted circles” and “rounded squares” dance together to create interesting wordforms?

How does such a fontstruction perform at various scales and resolutions? How does kerning and tracking impact the presentation? How does it breathe?

This is not lazy – it’s a direction. And if it’s unimpressive to you, I challenge you to make the thing that revs your engine and show us.

I respect this work – and several of the fontstructions beate has more recently shared – because of the use of a relativey small grid. Any true lover of the fontstructor should find this alone exciting!

More clean and consistent work from beate that employs a variety of select curved and linear bricks within a minimal grid adds to the wonderousness of the prismatic catalog of fontstructions as a whole.

Let’s cultivate our ability to offer engaging and respectful critique. Rather than (itself lazy) feedback that a work is subpar based on a superficial standard of smoothness, let’s stretch (or facet) our modular lens to comprehend the intention of an artist before correcting them.

On this note, I would offer to beate – have you considered overshoots for O, C, G, e, etc. ?

Comment by William Leverette (will.i.ૐ) Mon, 31st December

@William Leverette (will.i.ૐ): Totally agree with you. By the way, I added Cyrillic to your Stampade font! and maybe you will be interested to see. Or on my other works, including original ones.

I am afraid that Helvetica can kill all other fonts. This font is clear to everyone(and Myriad).
Since there are a lot of designers in the comments, I would like to congratulate you all on the new year and wish more energy in the new year. Including in the fight against Helvetica)

Comment by Dmitriy Sychiov (Sychoff) Mon, 31st December

@ William Leverette (will.i.ૐ)

Good idea! Thanks : )

Comment by beate Tue, 1st January

why is the font so weird you really indone yourself this time beate *le epically presses enter button* get epically owened also can you make a the fortnite font but in cursive thanks also i need you if your interesedesd help me with my minecraft skin buisesies it only costs $20 to start working thanks also join my roblox group called the killers bye 

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